How do I get past apple id on used 5th gen touch?

You don't. You sell it for parts. iCloud lock is very effective at keeping the stolen iDevice market at bay.

"If you performed an actual full reset on the device, there would not be any Apple ID associated with it. What method did you use to reset it?

I would advise that you start by contacting the original owner and asking them to meet with you and sign out of the device. If they were, in fact, the legitimate owner they should be willing to do that."

you can crack it and delet the lock plist and it will never lock again because it willbe missing the section in software . need to jailbreak it and ssh into the file system to do this . simple for a hacker . i bough 10 locked ipod 5 touch all locked and all unlocked and sold for 500% profit

If it's iOS 7 you have a brick on your hands unless the previous owner signs in and deactivates the security lock.

I put my locked device on top of a pile of papers that I didn't want blowing around. Presto!!! Paper doesn't move now

You cant. If in activation mode the only way to get it unlocked is to call the previous owner